So I just got the email from AT&T about the $5 increase if you use a credit card for Autopay vs a Debit Card or Bank Draft. Yes, it's a price increase despite AT&T saying you get a discount for this. Typical AT&T spin.
T-mobile pulled this also with their wireless contracts. Yet I still pay with my credit card and keep the Autopay discount. I think this will work on AT&T also. Just a little more work for $60 a years savings.
Add a debit card as primary auto pay on your account. It will do a $0 pending transaction to verify. I use my Credit Union's card app to put restrictions on my debit card just in case it falls through AT&T's fat fingers like the other security breaches. Then go online after your new bill posts and do a manual payment with your credit card on file. The balance will be $0 when the auto pay is set to apply, and it will not charge your debit card.
I've been doing this on T-mobile now and it works. Because these companies also have retail stores and other reason's why a normal credit card would need to be accepted, they have to keep the CC option available. And it's likely to be a coding nightmare to have just the normal monthly bill payment to be recognized as the proper payment for all or a portion of a bill. And since Humans are lazy by nature for the most part, many people won't bother manually paying each month. So these carriers will still get sizeable savings.
If I were a credit card issuing bank, I'd increase the credit card rewards just for telco or other companies who charge more to accept a credit card. That lets the bank keep their part of the CC processing fee and sticks the vendor with the fee regardless. And happy credit card holders.
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Autopay Discount Debit & Crecit Card Strategy
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[AT&T Fiber] BGW320-500 (external ONT) and bypass
Current Situation: dying BGW210 with an EAP Proxy bypass in place.
AT&T shipped me a BGW320-500 as a replacement. So is the EAP Proxy bypass still an option as long as I am using the external ONT (and the "red connector")?
I did attempt to search this but I kept getting no results so I am asking.
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[AT&T Fiber] Bypass & Static IPs
Okay, got my static IPs just now and will be doing bypass this weekend (XGS-PON)
Question I have is this: I want to have two separate and un-connected networks each consume one of my static IPs. My plan was to put my SFP ONU into a switch, and then each router from the two networks into the switch, and just assign one of the statics to each
However, given the official AT&T setup on their gateway has the gateway consume one of the static IPs as the GW address, will my proposed setup work? Do I need to have a router upstream of my devices?
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Got the bill increase starting June
Looks like June 9 fiber goes up $5 just got the email
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ATTN?? MIDWEST Fiber users, issues accessing certain sites
Chicago market here.
I noticed this few weeks back with inability to use adguard dns (94.140.14.14, 94.140.15.15). Neither of these responds to pings when on the att network and lookups fail. Pings and lookups work fine on neighbor's comcast.
Tonight I tried to update my truenas installation.
Comes back with - Unable to connect to url https://update-master.ixsystems.com/TrueNAS/trains.txt: Automatic update check failed. Please check system network settings." Again, this url resolves and opens just fine on comcast.
Tried downloading the iso too, https://download-core.sys.truenas.net/13.0/STABLE/U6.1/x64/TrueNAS-13.0-U6.1.iso , also craps out when on att.
With respect to the adguard dns, it wasn't a big deal as I am not using it. But accessing other sites is a concern and issue.
There's a number of posts about this on att's site. This one is relatively recent - https://forums.att.com/conversations/att-fiber-account/intermittent-access-to-third-party-dns-server/65e5dbf1d1337129dfddf55a
Another - https://forums.att.com/conversations/att-fiber-equipment/no-longer-able-to-use-3rdparty-dns-servers-after-12hour-outage/65dffa69d1337129dfdda619
Based on a discord convo few weeks ago, it seems something is broken with peering or routing in this particular region as nonmidwest users could ping the adguard site successfully.
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ATT fiber - Inside cable
I am getting ready to add ATT residential fiber to my home. All utilities in my neighborhood are underground. I've trenched a 2" conduit (buried 18") to ATT's handhole, complete with a pull string (Mule tape), which is near my alley. The conduit comes up near where my underground electrical service entrance is located. I also have a 2" conduit installed from that point to the center of my home where the rest of my networking gear resides, complete with a pull string (Mule tape). Conduit is so much better than the way that ATT's burial contractor just slits the sod and stuffs the armored fiber drops just a few inches down. That's just asking for fiber cuts.
It is also rumored that Spectrum may soon also have fiber available.
I've been told that ATT uses single mode SC/APC to SC/APC (green ends) and the same for Spectrum. I plan on measuring then ordering pre-terminated fiber. I would also like to have spare strands so if one goes bad, I can merely unplug and replug.
Given:
-I neither have the skills or tools to splice fiber.
-I have some fiber handling experience.
-I can terminate ethernet cables on a good day.
-I have installed ethernet drops in every room of my home. Some rooms have multiple drops. While Wi-Fi is great and keeps getting better, there's no beating a wired connection for reliability, throughput, and security.
-I am a fulltime WFH IT worker. I currently use Spectrum for my internet provided. It's usually rock steady but not always. I plan on adding ATT fiber, so I'll always have internet service. I don't game as I spend 8+ hours staring at a computer monitor. A dual WAN router/switch would probably be my next purchase.
I need some advice...
1. Should I order/install one cable for ATT and Spectrum to share, with multiple strands (say 6 strands) or should I order/install 2 cables (1 for ATT and 1 for Spectrum), with multiple strands (say 3 strands)? I know vendors usually do not work good together.
2. Please suggest a vendor for pre-terminated single mode SC/APC to SC/APC fiber, multiple strands, suitable for installation in PVC conduit. The PVC conduit is in a dry location but a good electrician knows that inside of PVC conduit is considered a damp location. Amazon for the win? Is fiber, fiber, no matter what brand? I like 3M for some reason.
3. Can someone suggest a surface wall mount interior fiber box for single mode SC/APC to SC/APC (green ends) fiber, suitable to contain the fiber cable with multiple strands? I plan on running a short jumper fiber between that box and whatever ONT that ATT provides. I assume the ONT will be a standalone box, much like a cable router (other than the input will be fiber and not coax).
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[AT&T Fiber] Extremely slow connections to Bell Canada
For the last few days, my connectivity to AS577 has been extremely slow -- any IP on Bell Canada Fibe. High latency, slow connectivity, and around 15-18% packetloss.
I'm hardwired in, no issues with the "rest" of the internet, as far as I can tell.
Example affected IPs:
174.91.113.x
174.91.20.x
74.14.53.x
etc.
My traceroute [v0.95]
me -> 174.91.20.x 2024-05-03T21:48:44-0700
Packets Pings
Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
4. 71.148.149.230 0.3% 751 1.1 1.0 0.8 7.1 0.5
5. (waiting for reply)
6. 32.130.91.81 64.8% 751 2.8 2.8 2.3 5.2 0.4
7. 192.205.32.182 0.1% 751 4.5 7.2 3.5 131.6 16.6
8. kanc-b2-link.ip.twelve99.net 0.3% 751 48.0 45.3 43.1 67.1 3.6
9. chi-bb2-link.ip.twelve99.net 14.5% 751 74.3 67.7 48.9 92.1 8.5
10. toro-b5-link.ip.twelve99.net 26.4% 751 89.3 80.7 63.4 101.8 8.7
11. bce-ic-337939.ip.twelve99-cust.net 13.7% 751 71.5 78.5 60.9 96.3 8.4
12. (waiting for reply)
13. (waiting for reply)
14. (waiting for reply)
15. (waiting for reply)
16. (waiting for reply)
17. bras-base-toroon4695w-grc-13-174-91-20-x.dsl.bell.ca 13.9% 751 96.1 81.8 64.2 102.7 8.7
Is anyone else seeing similar problems?
# My internet connection is otherwise fine:
google.com (142.250.191.46) 2024-05-03T21:58:16-0700
Keys: Help Display mode Restart statistics Order of fields quit
Packets Pings
Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
4. 71.148.149.230 0.0% 188 1.2 1.2 0.8 3.1 0.4
5. (waiting for reply)
6. (waiting for reply)
7. 32.130.105.99 0.0% 188 3.2 3.8 3.2 6.0 0.4
8. 12.255.10.236 0.0% 188 4.9 5.1 4.7 8.3 0.4
9. 142.251.69.83 0.5% 188 5.7 6.0 5.3 9.7 0.5
10. 142.251.65.129 0.0% 188 4.7 4.6 4.3 6.2 0.3
11. nuq04s42-in-f14.1e100.net 0.5% 188 3.9 4.3 3.9 7.6 0.5
microsoft.com (20.112.250.133) 2024-05-03T21:59:15-0700
Keys: Help Display mode Restart statistics Order of fields quit
Packets Pings
Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
4. 71.148.149.230 0.0% 115 1.0 1.1 0.8 2.9 0.3
5. (waiting for reply)
6. (waiting for reply)
7. 32.130.104.99 0.0% 115 3.3 3.5 3.1 4.9 0.3
8. 12.88.45.162 16.5% 115 4.0 4.7 3.1 35.6 3.7
9. ae27-0.icr01.by21.ntwk.msn.net 0.0% 115 4.3 7.0 3.7 24.1 4.5
10. be-140-0.ibr04.by21.ntwk.msn.net 0.9% 115 47.6 53.0 47.1 176.3 21.1
11. be-9-0.ibr04.cys04.ntwk.msn.net 0.0% 115 48.3 57.4 47.1 159.4 25.2
12. be-8-0.ibr04.dsm05.ntwk.msn.net 6.1% 115 48.9 61.2 47.3 190.3 31.7
13. ae232-0.icr07.dsm05.ntwk.msn.net 0.0% 115 49.4 48.4 45.5 89.6 6.2
14. (waiting for reply)
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17. (waiting for reply)
18. (waiting for reply)
19. 20.112.250.133 0.0% 114 46.7 47.0 46.6 49.2 0.3
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[AT&T Fiber] going from Internet 1000 to 2000/5000, what can I expect?
1000 became available to me 1 year ago and now it says I can get either 2000 or 5000. I'm definitely upgrading but I'd like to know what I can expect with installation. I have fiber coming up to a box on the side of my house which has the ONT. From there a Cat 5E cable goes up to the attic and just lays on the 2X4s down to a distribution box (splitter) inside my bedroom closet where the gateway, then from there it goes to an Eero Pro 6 and a non managed switch that feeds Cat 5E cables to four rooms in the house. I'm assuming they will just install a new ONT and gateway but won't replace that 5E cable between the ONT and gateway (which goes up to the attic and then down to the bedroom closet where the gateway sits). What should I expect here?
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[AT&T Fiber] Speed/latency/etc experience between two local connections
First off I'll say that I've been very pleased so far with AT&T's fiber service here. After the first few days to a week, seems my speed tests shaped up and I can hit a consistent 940/940 or so (gig XGS connection but only gigabit to my ER-X). Zero issues otherwise.
However now it looks like they are doing work on my brother's neighborhood nearby. Doesn't live far from me. Probably about a mile and a half by driving if I had to guess. But with this new info now it's his turn to impatiently wait to get fiber. :p
We'll definitely have plans to do some large bandwidth transfers between our connections when that comes around so I started doing some investigating. I know on previous ISPs I've had experience with if you do a trace between two IPs in the same area they tend to route through external peers first for some reason. However for AT&T just testing with an adjacent IP within the same public subnet, it seems to stay within the local internal network to where I have just 4 hops and super low ~2-3ms latency:
My router > ATT's BGW GW/router > upstream gateway > other customer's IP.
I'm curious if anyone has done something like this in the past and have experience with how well this routing works? How consistent are the speeds and latency when under actual use?
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AT&T delays Microsoft 365 email delivery due to spam wave
quote:Starting on Monday, AT&T customers began reporting they could no longer receive email from Microsoft 365 email addresses.
When Microsoft 365 customers attempted to email an address at @att.com, @sbcglobal.net, or @bellsouth.com, AT&T servers would refuse the connection and not accept the email for delivery.
some claiming it also affects Gmailhttps://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/technology/att-delays-microsoft-365-email-delivery-due-to-spam-wave/
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Yes, another "dose this seem like AT&T Fiber deployment" post.
Sorry but I can't resist asking.
So last spring some contractors came down our street trenching new fiber. I chatted with them a sec when they were in front of our house and they told us they were running it for AT&T and how AT&T had them "deploying fiber like crazy all over the state". I asked for the heck of it if it was for their Fiber internet service even though I know that the contractors often know nothing more than where they are supposed to deploy the fiber, for who, but not exactly why. He said yes, but sadly was incorrect. Or at least the work done at that time was not for that purpose. It turned out to be running fiber to a new 5G tower that is a few hundred feet from my house (can see it from my back deck). So my cellular data speeds on my Note 20 Ultra 5G are quite good now (anytime I run a speedtest at home now on cellular it's ~400-450 Mbps down ~50-80 Mbps up).
Anyways. After they finished running fiber down to that new cell tower, nothing happened for about a year. Not until a few weeks ago. When contractors showed back up on our street trenching fiber again. I didn't get the chance to talk to them. I'll show with images but they were trenching fiber at the start of our street and ran it directly to where our VRAD is (very close, my loop length is ~800 feet).
They also buried one of those large grey vaults at the entrance to each street (there are many dead end streets connected to the "main" road). The exact same kind from the attached image, that one in the picture was buried right in my front yard when they ran the fiber for the cell tower. I have wondered since they did that if they could have put that in that specific spot to make running the fiber to the street across from us you can see in the picture easier etc?
I'll attach a image marking where they buried those.
Anyways. Since the contractors came again and ran that fiber to the VRAD, and buried those vaults I haven't seen anymore activity. But I know that is not unusual at all and how you can see some activity, then nothing for a long time. And even when it's all setup it takes time for AT&T's database to update and flag your address as eligible for fiber etc. But I would love to know if this can or could be a sign that it's for upgrading our area from FTTN VDSL2 to FTTH. When it will be finished who knows, but would be awesome to know it's at least in the works.
Thanks for any info.
Oh also I've seen some of the smaller green "vaults" or manholes whatever they are called.
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Trying to order REAL Internet (VDSL and not Air)
The title captures most of it. Located in Southern California and I am trying to order real AT&T Internet, that is not pushed over Cellular. Currently have Spectrum which is incredibly unreliable and has been for some time.
Anyway, two or three weeks ago, I had the option of ordering 75mb DSL Service from AT&T. Now... my only option is ordering "AIR" service through the website. I did try calling, and they couldn't find the DSL Service through the ordering system.
Does anyone know if there is a loophole, or backdoor link to order the real stuff? I want to switch and have a physical, real wire connection. I do not care about faster speeds, I am concerned about reliability and want something better than a fake cell phone.
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U-Verse app "update"
I realize U-Verse is sunsetted and not discussed much here, but the latest "update" for the app (on Android anyway) no longer allows me to schedule recordings, something I was able to do with the previous version.
Is it just me, or is everyone (that is, everyone LEFT) having this problem as well?
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Did anyone have any luck with negotiating Fiber 1000 plan?
My promo is about to ran out from $59.99 to $79.99, I tried twice to negotiate to no avail. The reps said they could not see any promos for $20 off, I got lucky last year. Last year, I called during the weekend and the rep just gave me the $20 off and also I got $120 gift card to offset the equipment fee.
Did anyone have any luck with the $30 ACP discount? I have a family member who has that, would I have to use their name for this discount?
Any help would be appreciated.
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AT&T loses key ruling in attempt to escape Carrier-of-Last-Resort obligation
quote:AT&T's application to end its landline phone obligations in California is likely to be rejected by state officials following protest from residents worried about losing access to phone lines.
Administrative Law Judge Thomas Glegola found that AT&T's application to end its Carrier of Last Resort (COLR) obligation should be dismissed with prejudice. State rules require a replacement COLR in order to relieve AT&T of its duties, but there is no other COLR in AT&T's wireline territory "and no potential COLR volunteered to replace AT&T," he wrote.https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/05/california-rebuffs-att-says-it-must-keep-offering-landline-phone-service/
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Is there any AT&T techs in here?
I'm having this horrible problem with upload speeds to my brother and only him.
I have a backup server at his house. I'm on AT&T 1 gig fiber and he has Comcast 1 gig down/35Mbps up. When I do speed tests, I get my full speed all the time. When he does speed tests, he always maxes out his download speed. When we do HTTP/FTP download tests from the same places, we can both max out our download speed.
My main server and the backup server are both running Debian 12 and rsync is my backup program. Whenever the backup task kicks off, on a good day (which is extremely rare), the xfer speed is 40/MB (megaBYTES) per second, which is about half my upload speed. But almost always, the xfer speed is a pathetic 2MB/s!
To make sure it wasn't a router problem, I hooked my main server directly into the ONT and he hooked the backup server straight into his cable modem and no change. We swapped out network cables, no change. I'm 100% positive it's a bad route between us but I don't know how to get anyone at AT&T to help figure out what's going on.
1 RT-AX86U-38C0 (192.168.50.1) 0.607 ms 0.536 ms 0.597 ms
2 192.168.1.254 (192.168.1.254) 1.497 ms 1.449 ms 1.419 ms
3 108-201-8-1.lightspeed.clmboh.sbcglobal.net (108.201.8.1) 3.766 ms 3.716 ms 3.688 ms
4 71.151.141.140 (71.151.141.140) 4.295 ms 4.270 ms 4.195 ms
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7 192.205.32.142 (192.205.32.142) 16.860 ms 18.874 ms 18.790 ms
8 be-1212-cs02.pittsburgh.pa.ibone.comcast.net (96.110.38.149) 28.228 ms be-1412-cs04.pittsburgh.pa.ibone.comcast.net (96.110.38.157) 28.117 ms 28.034 ms
9 be-31641-ar01.mckeesport.pa.pitt.comcast.net (96.110.42.174) 28.819 ms 28.762 ms be-31631-ar01.mckeesport.pa.pitt.comcast.net (96.110.42.170) 27.369 ms
10 po-3-rur02.stclairsvill.oh.pitt.comcast.net (162.151.152.10) 31.383 ms 30.972 ms 29.968 ms
11 96.110.214.50 (96.110.214.50) 28.900 ms 28.397 ms 29.433 ms
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At&t upgraded neighborhood to FTTH and now POTS doesn't work
I have a pots telephone line and after At&t started doing installs in the neighborhood for FTTH the phone now just rings once and when you try to answer there is static on the lines. Tech coming out tomorrow to look into the issue but I suspect they are just going to try to tell me to upgrade to VoIP over Fiber.
Does At&t offer VoIP over fiber without having home internet?
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att fiber strange ipv4/ipv6 upload slowdown
Noticed some strange behavior last night (friday) with uploads topping out at ~300 mbps (on a gigabit plan).
I am bypassed. Rebooted the ont, and connected the bgw210. Same result.
After more testing, it appears upload is slow/throttled when test is using ipv4. Ipv6 speedtests able to saturate upload fully. This can be seen in iftop or if windows, resource manager/network/tcp connections.
The att droid is sending me out another gateway. It won't make a bit of difference as the issue occurs in a bypassed state as well. I'm hopeful this is just some kind of maintenance issue.
Anyone else? I'm in the chicago market, far northside of the city.
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2023-10-11 Update
Edited title to reflect both ipv4/ipv6 outbound is slow depending on the following;
Att send out a bgw320 to replace the bgw210.
With the 320 in place, the slow down has now shifted to ipv6 outbound (upload) traffic. With the 320 removed (certs bypass), ipv6 upload traffic is still slow.
Changing the wan and wpa_supplicant.conf mac back to the bgw210 mac brings back slow ipv4 outbound traffic.
With both macs set to the native wan interface mac, ipv6 outbound is slow.
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[AT&T Fiber] FCC broadband maps have been updated (12/31/23)
Looks like new map was posted yesterday.
https://broadbandmap.fcc.gov/home
What's frustrating is that my island of no AT&T fiber has shrunk even further and it's now pretty much *just* my neighborhood. My few blocks are really going to be the last ones to get fiber, if we ever even do.
It's always been like that too; lived in this house for a long time. We were the last neighborhood around here to get DSL. We were the last neighborhood to get Comcast Internet (we had TV service with no internet for years). Now it looks like it will be the last to get fiber.
I think my location is just cursed. At least we have mid-split!
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[VDSL] U-verse 2Wire 3801HGV gateway not working after storm
The uverse service at my parents house has not been working for the past several days since a storm. The gateway seems like it is not working properly. Regardless of whether the DSL is connected it seems to boot up with the power light blinking for about 10-15 seconds. Then the ethernet and phone lights come on for a time and eventually the 'broadband' light just flashes rapidly red. An occasional click is heard from what I assume is the phone line relay. The wireless SSID appears but I am unable to connect to it for very long nor access the setup page. I am also unable to get an IP address via ethernet even though the physical link shows as connected. I tried the holding the reset button and all that happened was the power light flashed red as well until I power cycled again. I tried another power supply but this did not help either.
Any suggestions on how to get this working again?
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